Upcoming presentations

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I will be doing two different presentations on horse color at BreyerFest in Lexington, Kentucky next week.

The first one, “Horse Color – Tips for Model Horse Artists, Showers and Judges” is scheduled for Friday, July 15 at 1pm and will cover the basics of horse color. This is an updated version of the talk I first gave with Dr. Sponenberg. It has been ten years since that original presentation, so there is a lot of updated information. I have also included a section on appaloosa patterns, which were not covered that first time around. The talk is geared towards those with very little background in horse color and is not highly technical in tone. It could be subtitled Horse Color is not Rocket Science.

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The second presentation, “The Mythology of Color”, is scheduled for Saturday, July 16 at 2:30. It is a completely different presentation from the first, and covers some of the history of the different breeds and how that relates to color. It is even less technical than the first presentation, and covers some related topics like breed mythology, registry regulations and changing fashions.  It could be subtitled Scandalous Things Not Generally Known about Breeds and Their Colors. It is the presentation that was recently given in San Diego, and ties in pretty closely with the material in the upcoming book.

Both presentations will be in the Visitor’s Center Theater at the Kentucky Horse Park. It has been a few years since I presented there, and I am looking forward to sharing some of the new information with everyone. I am also excited because one of the guest horses, Sato, is a patterned son of the dominant white stallion Puchilingui. That is the fifth of the known dominant white families (W5), and one that seems particularly prone to a more broken, spotted expression than some of the others. I am really looking forward to seeing him, along with the Ky Colonel (W2) descendant White Prince. I will be hoping for good picture-taking weather!

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5 Responses to Upcoming presentations

  1. Jacqueline Ferrigno August 3, 2011 at 4:27 pm #

    I was unable to make it to this years breyerfest, were you able to record your presentation? I know you had done some research on Friesians, and was wondering what the conclusion about Tobiano was, and if you had any insight as to why Sponenburg noted that Silver and Roan were unusual color alleles in the breed?

    • The Equine Tapestry August 4, 2011 at 6:13 am #

      That one wasn’t recorded, but I think the original one in California was. I will try to remember to ask the organizers.

      As for the odd colored Friesians, that’s all extensively detailed in the upcoming book – or at least as much as is known. There are really two different situations, though. Some of the odd colors like tobiano and grey and roan were found in the Bovenlanders which shared the stud book with the original Friesian up until 1942. The story usually told about the saving of the old Friesian is a little misleading, so there are misconceptions about the stud book and the “crossbreds” in the Bovenlander book. It’s also a bit convoluted because the two breeding groups were combined for a while. That is why I say that there were “sort of” tobiano Friesians; it all depends on how you choose to define the breed.

      There are also other colors that were in the old Friesian gene pool. The silver dilution was one of them, and those are all documented in the book, too. I was extremely fortunate that the estate of the original Dutch researcher who cataloged them gave me access to his photographs, so there is a photograph of one, too. Over time silver was lost as breeders more aggressively selected for black. (Black was always explicitly preferred, but it wasn’t always required for registration.)

      As for roan we really don’t know the specific gene, but in the early stud books a fair number of horses are listed as stekelharig, which simply means white hairs in the coat. In other Dutch stud books, that sometimes is used for darker (true) roans. It might also mean rabicano, or general white ticking. We really don’t know for sure. Whatever it was, the registry began culling those lines known to produce it pretty early in the restoration of the old Frieisan, so it is likely gone now.

      • Jacqueline Ferrigno August 4, 2011 at 12:41 pm #

        Thank you for the information, that lead me to find a few good historical sites on Baroque Pintos, which are still bred to this day.

        • The Equine Tapestry August 5, 2011 at 7:11 am #

          The Baroque Pintos are a little different in that they do not actually descend from the tobianos recorded in the FPS. They are claimed to be the descendants of Nico, who lived after the upland breeds split from the FPS. The Dutch registries at the time felt the need to take out an ad pointing out that Nico was not registered with any of them because they felt mare owners were being misled. He was a popular sire in his day, though, even if he (and his offspring) could not be registered.

          What little remains of the tobianos from the Friesian stud book is all in the KWPN. The stallion James Bont is one, since he traces back to the FPS tobiano Koekoek.

  2. Jacqueline Ferrigno August 5, 2011 at 1:52 pm #

    Thank you for that.